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at a board meeting yesterday, he asked the school board to accept this donation of these new posters. the school war didn't even less him finish before interrupting him with a flat out denial. their reasoning was that they had already met their so-called quota for in ghana we trust signs. who knew there was a quota? apparently no one, because there isn't actually a quota, mr. krishna went on to argue that nowhere in the law does it say that schools are limited to one sign per school the school board can, it seems, except these signs even written in arabic and with rainbow colors, but it refuses to which raises a new and very legitimate question, is that against the law? mr. critic told us that he and his fellow parents and activists are exploring their legal options, and may in time find out, and we intern are definitely etiquette there on this. that you can trust, that does it for us tonight, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening lawrence. good evening alex and of course we are awaiting this filing by
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the justice department that we suspect may occur during this hour. in the meantime, i have a few things to report about lindsey graham including the lies he told on fox tonight about what he said on fox the last time he was on fox. >> that is the modern republican party selective amnesia part deletion party. basically anything they said they could land him in trouble, like it never happened. >> he tried to make it disappear tonight. i don't think that's gonna. work >> you're gonna keep him honest, and i will be waiting for those 40 pages of explanation by the doj ride-alongs but side you. lawrence >> weakness gonna see some live reading on tv television. thank you. well, lindsey graham is now afraid of himself. a quisling quisling afraid of a
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shadow. and he proved that tonight by going on fox to lie about what he said on the fox propaganda channel. he's afraid of his own words, so he's afraid to repeat them, so he lied about them tonight. lindsey graham did not dare to repeat what he said. didn't their repeated tonight after two days of relentless criticism of lindsey graham including on this program last night and culminating at the end of the day today with joe biden of all people attacking lindsey graham for saying that if donald trump is indicted, there will be writing in the streets. and i say joe biden of all people because the very last thing joe biden wants to do is attack a united states senator. and joe biden's senate and the senate where i worked in the 1990s, not just was not done. but no one in the united states senate in those days reached the peak of indecency that lindsey graham reached sunday
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night when he said there will be rioting in the streets. not even strom thurmond. lindsey graham is a united states senator because strom thurmond could not live forever even though he tried. south carolina's very senior senator strom thurmond chose not to run for reelection for the senate when he was 100 years old, therefore creating the opportunity for congressman's lindsey graham to move up. the next year, strom thurmond died at the age of one 101 years old. six years later we discover this trump thurman had a secret, a big one. strom thurmond had a daughter who he never publicly and knowledge she was born before he was married. he was 23 years old and the teenage girl he got pregnant who was working in his parents home was 16 years old.
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strung thurman first child, a ca milan's first child was black. strum thurman always knew when he had a block daughter, built his political career on racism and segregation, and south carolina's white voters rewarded him for his rag racist segregation policies and the filibusters against civil rights legislation that he joined on the senate floor. like lindsey graham, strung thurman never apologized. but even strom thurman never said if the leader of my party is indicted there will be riding in the streets. no senator has ever said that. when a special prosecutor was investigating president richard nixon, republican senator strom thurman did not say if he is
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impeached there will be riding in the streets. even strom thurman knew that the united states senate should never say that, never. who won explains lindsey graham? his weakness and falling over donald trump is something we had never seen in a senator before donald trump invaded the republican party. whatever explains lindsey graham we may never know. perhaps we will learn more about him six months after his death as we did with strom thurman. maybe in a peculiar south carolina republican senate tradition, lindsey graham has a secret. and the person lindsey graham knows who loves secrets the most is donald trump. we know now know that donald trump has been happily riding around golf carts in florida knowing that in the basement he had a government document identified in the fbi inventory
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of the fbi search but said infiltrate, president of france. donald trump showed lindsey graham what he is capable of in the 2016 presidential campaign when lindsey graham was still campaigning against donald trump and accurately criticizing donald trump. and then this happened. >> he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. let's try it. 202 to 28029 to. i don't know. maybe it's, it's three or four years, ago maybe it's an old number. 202 to 208029 to. i don't know, give it a shot. >> it was lindsey graham's phone number. donald trump gave a lindsey graham's private cell phone number in public. imagine the fear lindsey graham
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has lived with since then. the fear of donald trump, the fear of what donald trump could reveal about him. lindsey graham knows that donald trump is a pathological liar, so donald trump knows it lindsey graham knows that donald trump could say something about them that is false. or say something about lindsey graham that donald trump couldn't prove. that conscious question, what are you going to tell your children or grandchildren to stop donald trump does not apply to lindsey graham. i'm like strom thurman, lindsey graham does not have children and is not suspected of having children that we don't know about. never been married, doesn't even have a dog. he has by outward appearance no one and nothing to love more than the title of senator. and that probably explains lindsey graham probably as well as anything can. he will do anything and say anything to hold on to the title of senator, a title he
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knows donald trump could rip away from him by endorsing another republican to run against lindsey graham and south carolina. if that is the explanation of senator lindsey graham, think of the hollowness of that man. think of the emptiness where conscience is supposed to reside in him. the two most miserable politicians in america tonight are lindsey graham and the man he serves, donald trump. both fighting criminal investigations of their conduct. when lindsey graham went on fox tonight, he was not asked a single question about the subpoena for him to testify to a georgia grand jury about his and donald trump's attempts to overturn the presidential election in georgia. but the host did show lindsey graham with joe biden said about him today and invited lindsey graham to lie his way out of it. >> but senator, he did bring you up, not specifically but it brought up a comments he made
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on son sunday. let's listen. >> the idea you turn on a television and cease and senior senators and congressman saying if such and such happens, they'll be blood in the street. where the hell are we? >> senator, he's referring to you. what is he talking about? i guess it's a comment made sunday when asked if president trump is interested or indicted. >> yeah so what i said sundays, that americans reject, i reject violence. >> that's a lie. he never said that on sunday. lindsey graham never said that americans reject violent, and he never said i reject violence. here's the rest of lindsey graham's answer tonight. >> i also reject the double standard here. so if they try to rescue president trump arrest president trump from mishandling classified information, after the clinton debacle when she was secretary of state, people lose faith in
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law enforcement. >> that is another lindsey graham lie. that is not witnessed a grand set. on sunday, lindsey graham did not say if president trump is prosecuted, people in this country will lose faith and law enforcement. here are the words that lindsey graham actually said on fox on sunday that he is now so afraid of he dares not to say them again. >> and i'll say this, if there is a prosecution of donald trump for mishandling classified information after the clinton debacle which he presided over and did a hell of a good job, there will be riots in the streets. >> fox owns that a video. fox owns the video of lindsey graham saying they'll be riots in the streets. fox could've shown that video to lindsey graham tonight, but fox will not show that video again. that's not the way rupert murdoch does business. there will be riots in the streets. that was sunday night.
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tonight, lindsey graham changes that to people in this country will lose faith and law enforcement. lindsey graham turned republicans into the riots in the streets party this week and now he's trying to run away from what he said. and today, joe biden made sure that people knew what's lindsey graham was talking about when he was predicting eradicating riots in the streets. president biden talked about the trump riot that already happened on january six, after the united states capital. >> they attacked it insulted spirited with flagpoles, sprayed with mace, stomped on, dragged, brutalized. police lost their lives as a result of the day. when officer said, it was worse than anything he had experienced in war in iraq. let me say to this to my maga
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republican friends in congress, don't tell me is support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the sixth. don't tell me! [applause] you can't do it! for god's sake, who's side are you on! who's side are you on? look, you are either on the side of the mob or the side of the police. you can't be pro law enforcement and pro insurrection. you can't be a party of law and order and call the people who attacked the police on january 6th patriots. you can't do it!
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what are we teaching our children? it's just that simple. and now it's sickening to see the new attacks on the fbi, threatening life of law enforcement agents and their families for simply carrying out the law and doing their job. look, i want to say this as clear as i can. there's no place in this country, no place for endangering the lives of law enforcement. no place! [applause] none, never period! i'm opposed to defining the police, i'm also opposed to defunding the fbi. the idea that you turn on a television and see senior senators on ink and congress saying if such and such happens, they'll be blood in the street. where the hell are we? >> joining us now is peter strzok, adjunct professor at
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georgetown university school of former and former deputy of the fbi's counter intelligence division. is the op author of compromised, counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. also bradley jay moss, it's a turning, and harry litman, deputy assistant general under president clinton. it's not legal affairs columnist for the new york times. peter let me start with you on that point joe biden just made about the republicans now being in favor of defund the fbi. did you think and you've been watching a republican change in attitude to put it mildly over the trump years towards the fbi. did you think it was coming to this that they would actually be the defund the fbi party? >> lawrence if you asked me that prior to 2016, having watched grown up in a republican house, having watched the party, having watched the values that they stood for in terms of national security and support for the
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military and law enforcement, my answer would be never in 1000 years. but watching with trump did over the course of this administration, the constant demonization of a lot of different elements of the executive branch, but certainly in particular the fbi and anything the fbi jay might do that might go against him, unfortunately seeing that in motion this was the inevitable result. and it's not something in my opinion that we are gonna be able to turn around quickly at all. it's a sad day for the republican party. it's a sad day for anyone in america who is talking about at the end of the day strip away all the rhetoric, these folks are calling for when they call death on the fbi, is trump is above the law. do not investigate him, let alone prosecute him. there is nothing that he can do that merits even an investigation, and that's what they're saying here at the end of the day. >> harry lippman, as i said last night one of the components of what lindsey graham has to say is it's
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profoundly insulting to the 74 million trump voters who absolutely i have never rioted in the street and never will and absolutely will not do that no matter what happens to donald trump. but how is that kind of language from united states center who serves on the judiciary committee received in the justice department? >> it's really despicable, but he has this sort of teeth bared anger that you can almost at the kavanaugh hearings he can rev up into this. there's an artificial feel about it for me. i don't think people in the department of justice are shaking in a boots or anything like that. i think they're more rolling their eyes, here's another sign of the times. but certainly take stock that unelected senior senator in the united states senator is saying this kind of thing, and of course the real worry is what
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it could unleash among the maga crazies, who there is some recent affair. i think doj, it doesn't deter them from their job or anything like that, but it makes them think, wow, another sign of the times, how do we get here, kind of like peter says. >> and bradley moss, tonight is the night where we will be getting the next court filing from the department of justice. this in response to the trump filing asking for a among other things a special master to get into the documents that were seized by the fbi had donald trump's home. to try to sort of, i don't think it's clear with the special master supposed to sort out, but what do you -- what are you expecting from the justice department tonight? >> lawrence, i'm expecting a couple of things in part of it is expecting, and part of it is hoping. i'm hoping a lot of more of it is facts. we've seen some details come out, whether it's media
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reporting or some of the official pleadings whether it's in court documents or, what were or not released. we've gotten a bit of a picture of the chronology. by large is what we truly know is what was provided by the trump team in their documents, which were very flattering to donald trump. so i'm hoping to get some real context here. clarification on the entire chronology, how this went down, dating back to 2021, and exactly how they came to believe there were more documents. it kept finding ways to determine their or more. we saw that reference in the probable cause affidavit, i'm hoping we get some more context here, so i think that would go a long way to reinforcing the transparency around this and giving clarity to what's really went down. >> peter strzok, will they have to reveal, the justice department have to reveal more evidence to make their points to the judge or are they gonna have to do this without revealing any more evidence? >> i think the goal is to
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identify as little classified information as necessary to achieve what they need. look, the fact of the matter is that the courts of are being very -- when executive makes claims for the national defense. this is not a case of its generations of trump putting tax fred allegedly at the trump tower. this is involves hiding classified material which poses a ongoing threat right. now so i think that we need access to this information because we have to work with the u.s. intelligence committee community to determine whether there are sources and methods to see that there applicability is implied right now. waiting a week, a month a year is unacceptable because of a place u.s. national security in jeopardy. i think you will see the government making that argument. i think they will do that. i too am very interested one additional information and
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detail we make it in the filing tonight. >> harry lippman, trying to make sense of what we have read from the trump side so far. the position seems to be either it wasn't classified or if it was classified, donald trump has an absolute right to possess classified information after his presidency and that there is some somehow some set of privileges that apply to that that we have never seen ridden anywhere? >> they are my privilege. the ball to really keep our eye on in this filing is executive privilege. it's a very cagey document by trump. it talks about privilege. special masters including all the cases he cites, they come up for attorney client privilege, and it's possible, in fact we now know that the
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doj scooped up a few of those papers. there is an absolute easy way to now figure out call balls and strikes, it's set out in the affidavit, no reason why district judge can't do it. now for some reason judge cannon wants to meddle in that, no great tragedy. the real worry would be that she somehow credits or revises this argument by trump that this is an executive privilege. that would up and everything about the search, everything about the potential prosecution and contradict every level of the federal judiciary up to the u.s. supreme court. so i expect there may be some facts, i agree by the way with brad, trump's lead with his chin, and given an opportunity to say here's what really happened. but the real double barreled thrust of the filing will be to say there is no executive privilege within a mile affair for many reasons.
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don't even think about a special master for that reason. and by the way, we don't need one anyway and there's nothing for you to do here. >> peter strzok, bradley moss and harry lippman thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight. we are going to go to a commercial break now. this filing could be handed over to us at any moment including this commercial break. we will come right back. and when we do come back, donald trump's favorite secret service agent has quit. he quit today. congressman adam schiff will join us. next we might have the filing from the department justice department. department astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.
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secret service agent quit. in a statement to nbc news, tony ornato said i did retire today to pursue a career in the private sector. i retired from the u.s. secret service after more than 25 years of faithful service to my country, including serving the past five presidents. i long planned to retire and have been planning this transition for more than a year. although i retired from the united states secret service, i plan to continue cooperating with the department of homeland security office of inspector generals investigation. my counsel have been in touch with the inspector general and they discuss but have not yet settled on a mutually convenient date for us to speak. tony ornato is the only secret service agent who was chosen by
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a president to serve on the white house staff. donald trump made tony ornato the deputy chief of staff. tony ornato has been described as one of donald trump's quote greatest yasmin and quote, by carroll levin who wrote a book about the secret service. cassidy hutchinson told the january 6th select committee, that tony ornato told her what happened in the private presidential vehicle when donald trump wanted to go to the capital. >> tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the effect of, i am the effing president, take me up to the capital now, to which bobby responded, sir we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm and said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we are going back to the west
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wing. we are not going to the capital. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and he recounted the story tomorrow he motioned towards his clavicle. >> joining us now is congressman democratic congressman adam schiff, he's chairman of the house committee, and a member of the january 6th select committee, services lead impeachment manager in the first impeachment trial of donald trump in the senate. the paperback addition of his book midnight in washington, how many almost lost our democracy and still could is now available. congressman schiff is joining us now. thank you very much for joining us. this news today about tony ornato brings back to mind the issue that the committee the january six committee was pursuing and discovered about this loss of tax on january six and january 5th. is that something we are going to hear more about when the
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committee resumes public hearings? >> it is something the public will learn more about. i don't know if i can say there will be a specific hearing on this topic or that. we're not prepared to make any announcements, but we continue to vigorously investigate what was going on with the secret service. we continue every day to receive additional records from the secret service, and something doesn't add up. there are just too many conflicts and what people have said, what the documentary evidence as shown, when other witnesses have said. we want to get to the ground truth, and we will. if it rubble choirs bringing them back, and we will bring them back in, but we are going to expose what was going on within a secret service as well as whether there was any deliberate effort to impede our investigation and that or that of the justice department. >> you saw president biden today in his speech talk about this republican movement now to
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defund the fbi. there are people to be members of the house representative saying they want to defund the fbi. some say they want to abolish it, just get rid of it, not replace it with anything, not some other version of it, nothing. what does it mean to the future of the house of representatives if you have members of one party who believe that there should be no federal enforcement of federal laws? >> well it's completely disabling. i think in a form of government if you have members of a party out of blind beads to the party leader want to essentially turn a lawn forsman, turn on the justice department because their party leader may have engaged in criminal activity and they don't want to investigate it. i think you are absolutely
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right in your characterization of senator graham and the dangerous irresponsibility of what he is saying. for that matter what donald trump is doing which announced to basically if they come after me, i will pull the whole house down around me. and have more members of congress who share that lack of commitment to our constitution, to our institutions is a terrifying prospect. >> one of the things we have seen with lindsey graham tonight is he is now afraid of what he said on fox the last time he was on fox. he's refusing to say it again. that may be a distinction between lindsey graham and say marjorie taylor greene who seems to be on a mission every time to say something more outrageous and crazy and she said the last time she spoke. that's one difference, when lindsey graham and those words are thrown in front of him and he's criticized over for two
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days, he himself becomes afraid of what he has said. >> i think that's true. i think the lindsey graham you see some fleeting signs of conscience that, come up from time to time that a quickly extinguished. and others, and i wouldn't would put marjorie taylor greene in this category, or just negative, bile filled performance artists. now there's that's a small number in congress, but there are more and where she came from, who are running in republican primaries in very red districts who appear to be poised to join the congress. it's just such a staggering turn of events, but when you take the long view and you think about some of the giants who once served in the congress. people of principle like john lewis and so many others and now you see sort of the crack pot caucus growing within the gop conference, what a terrible
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turn of events it is for the country. >> can you tell us when you expect the next public hearing of the january six committee to occur? >> certainly when we get into the fall, so september, october, we will definitely have a hearing or hearings on our recommendations about how to keep the country safe going forward. we may also have a hearing or hearings of a factual nature of the kind that we have in the past. want to make sure that whatever hearing we do is as meaty and substantive as the ones we have done and we don't have hearing simply to have hearings. so we are and hard work gathering new evidence and contemplating what our next public presentation ought to be. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you lawrence. >> and coming up. donald trump is in full panic mode and he proved that today. that's next. t today.
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able to track in time, that the more worried or panicked donald trump's, the more insane his public pronouncements become. first on twitter in the earlier years until he was banned, and now on his own social media platform. today, donald trump's biggest outburst of public madness on his platform in a while took place, including the former president of the united states actually presenting the qanon conspiracy theory poison that no sane person is ever believed. senator sheldon whitehouse who usually ignores this stuff found this disturbing. he said the former presidents but in conspiracy theories and inspire political violence and falsely called the legitimacy of the government into question. we cannot ignore the dangers of this extremism. joining us now, stuart stevens,
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a veteran of five republican republican presidential campaigns. he's the author of it was all a lie, and how the republican party became donald trump. also senior executive editor for bloomberg opinion and author of trump nation. he is msnbc political analyst. stuart, senator whitehouse says that what we are getting from donald trump now is dangerous. the public statements are dangerous. they include i want to share with the audience, donald trump re-posting a picture of joe biden, vice president kamala harris, of speaker nancy pelosi with the words, your enemy is not in russia, ridden in black bars over their eyes. we're not putting that up there right now. stuart, what do you make of this? how would you rank the danger level? >> well, i think it's tremendously dangerous. we have seen this, but it's part of a pattern that the
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republican party that i was part of, we always used to say and maybe it was self gratifying but we seemed to believe it at the time that we believed in law enforcement. that was a key premise in the entire party, and now it is really become a and anti-law enforcement party. at the root of this lawrence is, will you assert that donald trump lost a fair and free election? it's not just donald trump doesn't assert that, the vast majority of republican officeholders will not say that joe biden was a legally elected president. so just unpack that for a second what does that mean? that means we don't have a legal government. that means that joe biden is an occupier, not an elected president. and if you believe that, that it's a short walk to believe that not only you have a justification to do whatever it takes to get rid of this person occupying the white house illegally, you might have a moral obligation.
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and out of that comes these threats of violence, and it's endemic to the whole republican party that is at war with government and the idea of democracy. >> tim o'brien, you have studied donald trump closer than any of us. you know him. i theorize about him from afar. my sense is you can tell how panicked he is by how crazy these public statements are. is that a fair interpretation? >> that is absolutely spot on lawrence. we have talked about this before but there are usually two lenses that you can understand donald trump's behavior through. it is either self aggrandizement or self preservation. and he is clearly in self preservation mode. prior to his presidency, he was only in a place like this once before in the early 1990s when he was in danger of going
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personally bankrupt and he was going through a series of corporate bankruptcies and he lashed out it everyone around him. family members, bankers, the media, anybody who is critical of his ability to survive and the fact that he was the author of his own mess. he got past that. he ended up sort of damaged and an even larger cartoon figure that he was prior to that debacle. when he came into the presidency, i think there were various times when he felt cornered. he felt cornered by the robert mueller investigation and he lashed out in a similar way to the way he's lashing out now. during two impeachments, i think he lashed out in a similar way because he was scared. the january six committee has scared him. and this justice department investigation is scaring him and he is very aware that he is being abandoned. he is being abandoned by the party, he's being abandoned by the people who usually run interference for him, felt not
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enough of the party is detaching from. you have people like lindsey graham waiting into similar waters in defensive trump. and as a legal team that is wildly in over its head while they are a target of a very methodical and well founded federal prosecution. so of course he is scared. and so he is reaching for any kind of defense he can muster. and if the consequences weren't so great, because he is fomenting violence. there is a high likelihood there is going to be violence in the streets because of his behavior and it would simply be tragic, but because of the influence in the power he wields, we are in a very delicate moment here, it's time for republicans to step up on mass and disown him. tim o'brien, and stuart stevens, thanks so much for joining our discussion. >> thank you lawrence.
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capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, she's the author the new book electable, why america hasn't put a win in the white house yet. ali, thank you for joining us tonight. this is the book i've been waiting for, i need this answer, what do we tell our daughters? >> we tell our daughters that it is coming. because truly, after going on this exploration for this book, from the moment i stood in that crowd outside of elizabeth warren's house in that clip that you just showed, all the way through the moment that actually put this book into production, i do feel optimistic that this country is closer to than ever before. in large part, because both parties have caught up with filling a pipeline of potential candidates, who are qualified and can win. it's why the title of the book is electable, because frankly, for all of these women running, they are electable if you vote to elect them, and frankly that's the last hurdle we have to overcome. simply said than done, but i do
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think we're closer than ever. >> you know, when hillary clinton was running, i used to listen to people say, you know, i just had a problem with her. and the problem could be bill clinton. it could be something that is particular to that candidates. then those same people, when elizabeth warren was running, and maybe klobuchar was running, i was hearing the same thing from them. there was no pre-existing condition for them to, in any way, dislike about these women candidates. and it left me less hopeful than before. >> yes, it's funny how that happens, right? i talk about this idea that there just is something about then that we often hear from voters and other people in this orbit, as women candidates run. it was especially striking in 20 tiny, i have to say, because of the way you look at 2016, when hillary clinton won the popular vote, i know that's not the way we elect presidents in the cut this country, but is
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certainly a metric of whether the country is ready to elect a female president. certainly, they were in 2016. then you look at other polling data data from 2018, and you look at it in 2019, it looks like the moment was ripe for female candidacies. but then you started putting names on the line, and political personalities behind them, and all of a sudden people kept finding things they didn't like about these female candidates. part of the reason that i detail these moments in the book, a female candidates somehow falling into the invisible traps of, just campaigning for president the way that men have done for decades. part of the reason that i call these moments out is because, once you see them as sexist engendered, it's easy to disrupt the narrative. and by disrupting the narratives, it levels the playing fields much more. the thinking being, when you go into 2024, 28, and all these upcoming cycles, it will allow a more level playing field for these women who are running, and they will be running. that's a very important metric
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for us, because just in the way there's something about them with the male candidate, is one of the parallels i lay out in the book, is when you look at people like beto o'rourke or pete buttigieg, talented politicians, but voters always used to talk to me about some intangible just something about them quality in a tangible way. it's hard not to see that phrases indicative of a larger structure, against female candidates. >> ali vitali, i've been waiting for this book. this teaches us more about the subject than anything else i've read, thank you very much for joining us tonight, the book is electable. why america hasn't put a woman in the white house yet. we will be right back. thank you, ali. thank you, ali “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough.
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electable, the title of ali vitali's book. 11th hour stephanie ruhle starts now. ♪ ♪ ♪ tonight, a midnight deadline for the doj to response to trump's apparent delay tactic, as trump goes on a ranch on social media. then, president biden out on the campaign trail, touting his administration's accomplishments on gun safety. one topic that didn't come up, the complicated economy. plus, my one-on-one interview with maryland's democratic nominee for governor, westmore, he sharedho